[Transcript of interview with Ángel Noé Gonzáles] Page: 4 of 5
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here in Dallas. But we've had walk-outs in Houston, and other schools, in Edcouch, there must
have been 30-40 walk outs during this period of time early during the 70's, and most of them
were very effective and changes have come about because students and parents decided that
they were fed up, they wanted a better education for their children, they wanted them to stay
in school, wanted them to go to school. I have never seen or met a parent who didn't care
about the education of their children. They all do. But a lot of times, some of us in education
say the parents don't care. Well that's not true. I have not met parents that don't care for the
education of their children, and I would say to those parents from Crystal City, or Edcouch-
Elsa, or any place else, Good Going. A lot of changes have made the educational system go
from 10% graduation to 50%. Still not good enough, but that's a lot better than 10% that are
graduating from our high schools.
Interviewer: How do you see, you've been definitely impacted with parent involvement in
education, how do you see the future of fighting the way it is? Is it gonna be the way it exists
now or is it gonna be something that fades away with change? (kind of hard to hear some parts)
Gonzalez: I think these changes are gonna have to be brought about. We have a lot of needs in
bilingual education and one of them is a critical shortage of teachers, and until we go to Austin,
and I've marched on Austin, We marched to get the first 2 million dollars for bilingual
education. We brought busloads of people from Crystal City and marched down Congress
Avenue and we got their attention, and we got 2 million dollars. That wasn't very much,
compared to the 100 million we now have, but that was the beginning. Had we not marched we
might still be fighting or trying to get 2 million. And now it's up to over 100 million for the
education of children. The unfortunate part is that over 50% of the children, who need bilingual
education, are not receiving it because they don't have a bilingual teacher. Our fight today and
tomorrow and during this legislative session is gonna be getting the legislature to fund teacher
education programs so that every child who needs bilingual education will have a certified
bilingual teacher until he or she can transition into an all English program, and that's going to
take a big effort and a lot of money. Our neglect has occurred because no body's been willing
to go and stand up and say we need teacher education, we need teachers, we need bilingual
teachers. And until they do, the legislatures gonna say that everything is fine, bilingual education
is failing. They don't realize or understand that we don't have bilingual teachers and any
program that doesn't have the people to teach that particular content area, or that program,
it's gonna be a failure. So our failure is our inability to organize our parents and to organize
ourselves as educators and march down to Austin. I think it's that time.
Interviewer: Is there anything else that, relating to the video or the production or anything that's
important, anything that we've left out?
Gonzalez: Well you know, I haven't seen the final version, I'm sure it's going to be a good video
because I know y'all have communicated with a lot of great people. I think that the final product
is going to tell us a lot about what happened. Eventually we'll get a video that might relate more
Here’s what’s next.
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