The Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association, Volume 3, July 1899 - April, 1900 Page: 280
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him if anything had been said to him about the co-operation of the
State government with the constitutional convention. He answered
that no one had spoken to him on that subject. I told him that was
what I had come to talk with him about, to which he said, "You
know I am 'opposed -to secession." I answered that I was aware of
that, and stated that this matter had' reached a point which involved
the future of the States, and had passed beyond the consideration of
individual interests; that he had long been recognized in Texas and
in the South as one of the leaders of public opinion; that the people
recognized his conservatism and the importance of his co-operation
with them, and I expressed the hope that they might secure it. He
said he had been born ,and reared in -the South, had received all his
honors from the South, and that he would not draw his sword against
his own people. He continued: "Our people are going to war to per-
petuate slavery, and the first gun fired in the war will be the knell of
slavery." I said to him that many people thought that if the'
South should show a united front, and readiness to maintain
their position, this might induce the manufacturing and commercial
interests of the North, and of Europe, and' especially of Great
Britain, to interpose their good offices for peace, and so avert an
armed conflict. He said that this was a great mistake; that Great
Britain had for forty years pursued a policy favoring the 'dissolution
of the American Union; that -she had two, controlling reasons for
pursuing this policy: one, her hostility 'to our free republican
system of government, and the other to, see our cotton industry in-
terrupted by war until she could build up her cotton interests in
India and thus be relieved 'of her dependency on the United States
for cotton. He also said that France was still mome hostile to our
system of government than Great Britain, and desired a war here to
give her time to build up her cotton interests in Algeria; and that
neither of these governments would do anything to prevent a war
among us. And he said that when hostilities were commenced that
the people .of the North would subordinate the manufacturing and
commercial interests to their passion, and would not attempt to pre-
vent a war.
On my renewing the question about the co-operation ,of the State
government with the convention he said nothing had been done by
the convention to that end. I then asked him if a committee from
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