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For the most part, it was social for me. And it
was certainly the crowd I was hanging around
with. You either did it, or you didn't hang
around those people. I was fully aware of what I
was doing. But I was also aware that had I not
hung around late at night after Versace's memo-
At some point, I knew that there would be a
story here. My thing was really about collecting
stories — not necessarily to write. But to just to
tell other people because they're fascinating sto-
ries. And all put together, they make a portion
of the book.
It's funny, there's a small incident with Courtney
that I really didn't remember until after I fin-
ished writing the book. And that was a moment
where her and I somehow ended up in the office
of a restaurant In New York after the MTV
Awards. It was a party for Maverick. And I don't
know how we ended up alone, but we did. And
we ended up making out. It was kind of disgust-
ing. But I didn't recall that until much later.
But you don't have adventures unless get out
there and have them. At that point, part of the
adventure was doing drugs, i don't think it's
that big of a deal.
And getting back to your question about our
relationship: In my own way, I was subcon-
sciously pulling away from her. It was difficult to
envision any other life — one without Madonna.
Because for 20 years, that was the only iife i
had. I knew I had to get out of it. I didn't try
that hard to dissuade her or prove anything to
her. I could see where things were heading, and
it was time for us to stop. I think she was much
more of an addiction to me than the drugs were.
That life was more of an addiction than any
alcohol or drug I could have taken.
I just watched "Truth or Dare," and there's a
moment when your dad visits Madonna back-
stage — you're in the room too. Madonna
immediately makes your dad compliment your
stage sets. That's exactly what a big sister is
supposed to do. it was thoughtful, loving and
unselfish ... Or was that contrived for the cam-
eras? Yeah, it was.
No way. You're kidding. I'm sorry to tell you...
Look, it just wasn't her way. You're expected to
do your job properly, and you get paid to do it
— even though I didn't know what I should be
making because I had only worked for her. So
there was nothing for me to judge it by. But in
all the years I worked for her that was the only
time — ever in public — that she ever compli-
mented my work. Except for maybe once or
twice in a magazine.
guess I plucked the exact scene to reference.
That's why I was so taken aback when, on the
last tour, she dedicated a song to me in Miami
— even though it was a backhanded way of
Rather than saying, "I'd iike to dedicate this
song to my brother Christopher who is in the
audience," she said, "I'd like to dedicate this
song to my brother who is in the audience."
It was like a dedication — but not really.
Did you send her a copy of the book? No, not per
sonaliy. I figured she'd find her way through it
on her own, or her friends would read it, or
[Madonna's longtime publicist] Liz Rosenberg
would read it and teli her what was in it. I'm
assuming she'll read it. I can't believe she
if Madonna does read it, do you think she'll be able
to see that it's a good literary endeavor? Or
would her ego only get in the way? The hardest
thing for her is going to be is the human stuff.
Because of her lack of control over it, number
one, and she's been crafting an Image for a long
time. And anything that alter that image or take
a second look would be considered detrimental.
I hope she can see it for what it is — and not
what she expected.
MADONNA'S ONLY BUDDY: Christopher says Ingrid
Casares, left, is unhappy about the book and sends angry
messages to phones belonging to Christopher's friends.
What did she expect? Through my father, I heard
what she thought the book was going to be. She
thought I was going to tear her apart and
destroy her family and talk about her kids.
Frankly, that was one of the hardest things for
me to understand.
I spent 47 years with this woman, and 20 of
them working for her. And she really didn't know
me. She didn't know me at all. She assumed
the very worst possible thing, which was rather
It didn't set out to destroy her. This book really
is my story. And my story includes her a great
deal. She was a major part of my life — not just
as a sister. I think for someone who's a fan of
hers, they're getting to see that little bit behind
that curtain. And it only brings them closer.
What do your other brothers or sisters think of the
book? I don't know if they've read it. They all go
about their own lives.
That was the other thing that I wanted to do
was to at least give them a small voice because
they have no voice at all. And I explain the
nature of what it's like — how you actually have
to deal with the fact that your sister is the most
famous woman In the world. It's not something
that you can just let go. It's something you have
to deal with.
What is next from this starting point? Probably
another book of some kind — not about
Madonna. Hopefully there are a couple of
scripts that I've written. I'd love to direct movies
— one about a female bullfighter. There's a
young singer I've been managing, Julian, who I
think is incredibly talented. And I have some
experience there, and why not use it and try to
give back to somebody to help somebody out, if
The Janice [Dickinson] thing — the TV stuff —
I've been developing a design-based reality
show with Freemantle, the production company
that does Janice's show. It's not your basic
design show, it's pretty off the wall and raw. It's
not polished — you sort of get the nuts and
bolts and nitty gritty of what It really takes to do
those kinds of shows. There's tons of ideas float-
ing around my head. I'd love to do something
What if Madonna asked you to design a new set for
her old "family ties" song, "Keep it Together" —
what do you think that image would look iike?
That's a difficult question. I couldn't tell you
right now. I don't think there is a picture. I
think her and I have some distance to go before
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