Christian Messenger (Bonham, Tex.), Vol. 3, No. 30, Ed. 1 Wednesday, August 1, 1877 Page: 4 of 8
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Chbistlwj Messenger:
Editor
editors:
fSSfc
0. .SnrpRicK,
H. C. Horn, ter.
even without marrying
sister. Long after this
i* m .tovtq* witii God,
[tifaM&i* *!*«&, and
there would be nothing incon-
sistent in bis marrying his sis
t6-day,
T. M. SmunrxY.
Y.AIJG^ 18777
the Chbebtian
\ftvm
ick, nndis
IA report of
>r the pres-
ion
doubt*
■ to
is situated
main
le
Webave no need to look fur-
ther into such matters than to
see there is no conflict, or ab-
surdity. Beyond fotvri*
study practical matters. <£Hr.
-—•—-
Reply to Mr. P«lt. .
l^laes^ and
Mb. Pelt—Bear Sir:
My trip west driayedtnyre-*
your last until how.
qu are glad of toy *ottEo-
you eayJ V^WSL I hate
*
neter concerned mye&tmudb
a* to whether Iwaaojtfcodox
or not, so far as the de
titoriifttodafdj of-oitij^s&axy
bounties in is concerned. I hate: been
aware, for some years, that I
was Bible-dox on this subject?
that the position fthaT
the Holy 8pjrit W iptTfi irtf
the Wort rif truth the tostru*
mantes Baptist doctrine^,
may be, but Ikbow that in ad
dition to this they pray the
Lord to pour out |he spirit
on sinners. €h W.1
associate editor of the Tenn
80 Baptist-affirmed, in his
3 with David Lipscomb,that
the Holy Spirit operates inde-
CVSflPtifcg
Graves was his counselor, and
endorsed the doctrine. T. B.
McComb denied this proposi-
tion:* ■“The Scriptures teach
thatin the conversion of the
sinner the Ho$ Spirit operates
■oifly through the Word of
f*i
ftlemen advocate direct action
•the hearts of sinners.
They are representative ’ men
among the Baptists. Why then
.does 'C. W. Peft caft ^ o
membership in th(
1 eastern Trams had
at all. The ses-
meeting were har-
and great good feel-
the
ibera-
W. K. HomAn, of
chosen chair-
evangelizing
committee
funds «and
i sending out of
into destitute ro- bate.
. the next year. £
proceedings,
of the meet-
in the Messen-
; preached
on tile “Model
it will ho pub-
iper next week.
RPPPI4P
•respect was
creator ? Was
or spiritual I eratiem through the truth,
'-ie 4th Baptist doctrine?
fit
■op-
tire
But, eir, yon axe- equally urn
ftortnnate in representing fhfe
teaching of my brethren upon
^abject They teaeh that
ere it BCHsneh thing as Aepa-
hast driven
no the i
from thy fact
Mt shall be a
in the
come to pass
• findeih me
i$ question
;^Who was there
Gain ? Where
w
Ywu-s,
rml } ^nd
y people be-
questions
yofcr con-
iwe*.. -tjA
J. Johnson.
please answer.
there 3
rating the Spirit and the -truth;
that he convents tire sinner
through the truth, but only
dwells in their hearts as ti com-
forter when 4hey hiive been
baptised, ftease statfe ouf po(
sition fairljf^^ou go.along. If
is Letter to quote our own mi-
£EorS.r But you say this agent;
l—tr Adam was
rtpb mentally of
•and in no other
Wpak «w# toow.
M God was, to
rEis way, and so to make
ly, as the / event
2. This it the langtfsgfe* 6f
Of fiud, or of inspir-
ation/ 1? Simply-expresses the
terribleness of his .case, as it
presented Itself to "him: He
.a
t
bqiHgtnje
cute with his sword such
please# him. f The Spirit ap*
Pfifirs ift a large audience with
Ms sword drayrn, and loekh
Sfbnrt i^ntif he finds one who
ben strike?,
he cL>es not
Be lash foi*
latjou have
to pray 90%)«g; and earnest to
get him to gse M*‘ nwofd?
max did *atit duaau whe&BS
“tite sword of the Spirit, which
is the Word of Godf” .No*
tins word is to be used by . the
Christian, and the spirit has
made it powerful, sharper than
a two-edged sword. If you
_ iirill use the?Word aj-
his tiife. The ^om-fwayg cut to the heart such a?
Jihn chronology gives lflfi^ars..»yon are abls to strike. ^ Do not
fugitive ajuJ, vagabond as he
had expected to,be. He evi-
* fi«ntly contemplated an inwemse
or multiplication of the race ;
and in this he was>cor»ct. .It
fincresse that
was from that
•Gain got his w
li§
itiie xace, io
yfears. u-ou a«Mif
confound the work of the ^pir
uidm-fit'tir’twjrerilQji witlr tim 1n
the term Christian charch is cf
Divine origin,! will aaytiiat
yon lacked a little of proving
it. JL R. Lucas says that we
possess tiie true 'i scriptural
name.* Whatisitf Christian,’
Did he say ^Christian church is
the proper name? Nb, not
once^. ds this the way C. W.
Pelt proves his propositions ?
Dr. Lucas had under consider*-
tion the term '“Christian,” and
said it was of Divine appoint-
ment. But Mr. P_ added, and
is the proper name for the
chnrobufif Christ. Try again
Bp. Peit Mr. Elgan tried to
prove that the name “Christ-
i^l was of Divine appoint-
ment Mr. R. C. Horn urged
thai-people could unite with
jp^brethren upon the name.
Well, Mr. R. G. Horn wiiftfe
firm that the derm ‘^Christian”
I fa. approved ky -the Holy Spirit
r as a proper naane for a follower
^f Jeans. He will deny -that
there is any authority for the
fiame Baptist. “We teach Chat
Sti'Holy Spirit is n«£ confined
m the trathin hfa operations.”
No^ we are getting at a differ-
ence. X will affirm this propo-
sition rather than let yon get
out of defending your doctrine:
The Scriptures .confine the wotk
of the Holy Spnfe in the con-
version of the siwner to the
truth. Is there anyiasne now
between us ? - . j , i Ay
I will not be able to holfi the
dfacussioa before fail. This
suits my brethren, who lare
preaehm*,.for j^ey ^jaUv-Xiave
their engagements for protfhet-
ed quotings during. the sum-
mer. X .am engaged ‘ for some
time to come, and have some
hindrances over which I mow
have no control. Let no
say that we will not have the
discussion because it is put off.
We intend to hold a debate, or
have a good reason for a failure.
was on foot, and begun in.the
evening, they might vary well'
Wve gone rids fax, supposing
tfiat Jesus was eomewhese in
tiie company that were talkmg
so eagerly of their recent rieit
to Jerusalem. At any rate a tra-
dition locating that eventkere
looked upon their distant camp
at Gilgal, where flfa> Eosts of
Urael awaited their safe return
and the tidings of the battle.
The present town of Bethel, or
Betoln, as the Arabs now oriQ
it, is uninviting; but it has a
fine fig orchard in the suburbs,
secured for the place special whose fragrance was most
recognition by the Hrusadexs,
who erected a fine .church in
the town. It is now attractive
even in Its: ruins, oneOf the
many bnildings which they
erected everywhere throughout
Palestine on ihe trsditifri^p
spot qf any evenft inLufJUrtys.
life. rLike most of the towns
of the country^ icis now .aim-ling him to
gratefol afler otir day’s ride. |
A slight digression from the
more trswetedrsad enabled us
■^following morning to visit
«aloh, -where Joshua set op
the ark ,of, .thhJU)rt- and di-
vided to the twelve ttabea thfir
inheritance. Herer
uel heard the voice
ply a farmers, villagey Aa all
the tiller^,jejt the soil Xiv^H
villages for protection. What,
with repeated -change of gov-
ernment, rendering human life
and property unsafe, the Chris-
tians have long .since left the
band to the Turks. These old
churches, are often slightly
tidings of theiddwefaH of the
house of JSUr .JProm here tire .
ark was taken out to the battle
with the PhiSstines to be cap-
tured by them and never to be^
Set up again inftihiloh. The
place is a mass of ruins now,
save two buildings of a ‘date
not earlier than the Christian
changed and turned into (.era. Some ‘tittfo discern, as
mosques, and sometimes build-
ing material ^ takenirom them
for the construction of fenoes
walk or houses. Many have
thna^eqn destroyed.
oumey to
they suppose, the level plat-
form where the tabernacle once
^tested. The only place that
looks Hke it is now a field of
wheat is grown amid all these
for us at old ruins, the stones often be-
Betkel. It was between Bethel ing arranged in
^pitched keep the li^le xemaing soil
from washing down in the val-
iey-
his fontjin his first journeyings
in the lant^ and built an altiig
unto the Lord. His altar and Whoever visits Judea sim-
Yours for the truth.
<R. C.GIorn.-
Amoug the Heathen.
. ..boos i xoA&tsKni -
BETHEL, SHILOH, AND THa CIT-
, - %iaDSfaEsAEARta. •
[Taken from the editorial cor-
respondence of ihe St Louis
Chris tiw vdcate. ]
Our last:*kf+.'*s£ Jeiuaalem
w
his tent Always went up togetb
er. Here he returned from
Egypt when tire famine, was
ended. These bilk hardly af-
forded enough gram? for tire
growing flocks of himself aha
Lot far the herdsmen mot tti
strive together aver the best
jlgl* Jfram this hill, as we
bpmpfces found, it was
a^r ^for Lot to lift up
eyes and behold .all the
plain of Jordan, which he
ehosgfor his possession. His
mistake was in finally going
too fax soutfi and pitching Ms
tent nigh to Sodom. Here,
weary |tepV fieeing from a
home which be made for?ver
unhappy by bis deceit, came
at sunset, And taking one^p^feStlne
these'stones for his pillow, as
ply gets a very imperfect view
of Palestine. Even the- plain
of SliaToh, the valley of Es-
cbeL and. the fertile Mils about
Bethlehem, do not relieve tile
gendrarbarredheBS of the coun-
try. It is . not ..strange thMp
when Jacob dwelt in Hebron
his sons drov% thr cattle north-
ored portie® fo Bavaria. Men-
isseh’s was only
nifirfatlit1 de^s in
less so. Well
mighr Tt pass Tnto a proverb,
“Go&make.tbeoAs Ephraim and
as Menasseh.” The line was
well marked a5 we entered upon
tire largest,fig orchards and
mis were bii
‘
Samaria and Galiles. J^ waa
froni-iRbeah of Saul Whwie^ oc-
curred the terrible tragedy r^'
corded in the .last, three
ters ol Judges. Nothing but
ruins now mask the.rite of this
stronghold^ thg iB^qjamites.
Its summitcommafids the finest
view to all Judea, Neby Sam:
wil alone excepted. - It was a
good point from which to see
the Holy City fqrrire iaattime.
From it we cotilfl See Mizpeh,
Ramah ,ivnd iBcthel* as wril as
the Moab Hills and the myste-
rious sea kt 'th^rifoo^hRTtfi rthe
H Its wniie fiHH
Alter some three boors’ ride
over the hills we stopped for
lunch at EhBirch, the .tradi-
tional place where Jogqpb and
MarjHffrst missed Jesus Tb find
himlfeter with
the temple. “They supposing
him tobawbeOa itf the compa-
ny went a day’s journey;.and
they sought him among their
kinrfoStj m4l ”
tiie natives do to ihis day, h<
lay down in thatjfiacetoaieep
when, the wision of* the gadder
the morning of April J*‘j from heaven m^e
ittf-v/ayto % ^conedone of God's
presence mat he awoke saying,
where
rested upon
•f* How dreadful Js tMs- place 1
^!is mono other Xhan the
hpuse of sGpd, and this the gate
j6fj&ayea.” Here he took his
pillow dT.stone and, anointing
dt whii silt set it nip for a pH;
ilar, anfi gave the place its
name^Befhel the house of God.
Here, toor Jeroboam set up one
of'tiie two cfees 0050^,
?the peeple should go to Jerusa-
lem ' to worship and be won
-j . J v ■' •X:
over to his rival.
(. ; i . > .
Aether old church iu ruins,
Qne tofiit probably by the Cru-
ordan sadera, stands Q^aba^between
** Bethel and Ai. The bill where
Akssabam erected-, hk Altar is
piobdbly more to the east, .as
from ..there we ^ot our best
view of the Jordan valley and
the Dead Sea. At our feet lay
the site of Ai, witfi different
ravines where Joshua > troops
might have waited to ambush
the moment do x**h into, and
fire the unguarded ritjrr. While
n%r rikfa i riowry<; «rt>m. titie
111 we struck the plains,
for miles the eyect«lrt_
the
waring grain, . Of course there
were barren limestone hills in
sfght ^cariortfiy, and some-
timesfwe had to cros^ them,
but the general view was of
green fields, arid1 this too, al-
thongh the latter xain has been
very scant.
-ftie ap{w*(«' ‘toJ,8hecbem
19Mh tbretWki-f twid
plain, in a fine state of caltiva-
tfoli. Th^rewerAo fences, for
every man.had hj» .own l»nd-
mark, and now, as in Moses’
tinie, «ir#&l IS hd that remor-
etb Ms Aeighbo^’s landmark.
Mt. EbaT and Mt* Gerizim stood
facing 'each ? etker across an
arm of .the valley extending tor
ward fie west. Here, since on
our way from Jerusalem to
Galilee, we, likeourLord, must
needs go through Samaria, and
in oar path, asin hia, was Ja-
cob’s well. It k a cistern cut
in the robk,’ Rft£lfeually at this
time of water, but
the slight latter rain bus left it
empty:'* ‘Gf^btfiisA/ from vrhnt
Ih.v^re^y,
cred buildiUgSvone was elected
tJOdaftdering .that the jouitoir .snjmmii they -ccrtd- havelothers in the land, orritflarTbel
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Burnett, Thomas R. Christian Messenger (Bonham, Tex.), Vol. 3, No. 30, Ed. 1 Wednesday, August 1, 1877, newspaper, August 1, 1877; Bonham, Texas. (https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth974352/m1/4/: accessed April 24, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, https://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Bonham Public Library.