-: So education,
um,
labor,
you know, work, you know?
I've been,
I can't,
you have all these jobs that we've lost
that have gone elsewhere.
And a lot of them jobs we can do here.
You know, you have to go through some loops,
but if you clear them loops properly,
there's a lot of stuff that we can do.
One of the things when I was running is, you know,
(Abel coughing)
a lot of wind turbines in this area,
and I don't know.
I don't know if you got them at Fort Worth, but,
but we've got a lot of them here.
And you know, oh, they come from,
(lips smacking) I think from Sweden.
You know, hey.
One of my deals was, you know,
we can build them,
we can put them up,
and we can maintain them.
So.
Karen: Seems reasonable.
-: Well, I thought it was.
(Karen and Abel laughing)
Karen: Okay. Before we close it out,
is there any final statement you want to leave us with?
-: Oh, well, you know, I mean I,
I'm glad y'all are doing this.
I mean, you know, my story is, you know,
my story.
You might have a lot of stories that are similar,
a lot of stories that are fairly different,
just depends on which part
of the state you come from.
I'm glad y'all are doing this
because,
right now,
on the election process,
this is one of the problems that I also ran on.
You know,
(lips smacking)
when you vote for somebody,
you vote for that person because that person says,
"Well, I'm going to do this,
and you can count on me doing this."
Well,
a lot of the the younger generation goes with,
you know, I voted for you.
I expect you to follow through.
Well, yeah, you elected them.
But the process doesn't start right then!
You know, what the younger people need to see is, you know,
what you're working for now,
might not come through in your time,
but it's there for the next generation.
And, you know, they look at the,
the generation today,
a lot of the reason that a lot
of people don't vote,
younger people,
is because if I vote today, I want action today.
And that's not the way it happens.
So, you know,
with this documentary, you know,
if they see it, you know, they might say,
"Well, you know,
it happened in Amarillo.
It happened in Waco."
And you know, maybe they'll say,
"Well, wait a minute. It's a process.
It's not a here today, here today.
It's here today and working for tomorrow."
Karen: Okay. All right.
Well, we thank you (Abel laughing)
for your time and- (Abel laughing)
-: Well, thank you for coming over.
I mean- Karen: Yeah. Yeah.
It was great.
You have anything to add?
Joel: I was just gonna ask one.
Look back and the NAACP sued the City of Amarillo,
first the city council and then the mayor-
-: Do we what?
Joel: When you look back
and the NAACP sued the city council,
or first the mayor and then the city council.
Was there disparages in services
between what the East side of town got
or the Southeast part of town
and what this part of town gets?
Or the West side versus the-
-: Yeah. Joel: East side?
-: Well, going back to the lawsuit.
(Abel sighing)
The Hispanic community is bigger,
way bigger than the black community,
(lips smacking) (Abel inhaling)
but the Hispanic community is spread out through the North,
South, East, and going towards the West.
(lips smacking) (Abel inhaling)
It's a big spread.
And what we wanted,
and the black community is on the North,
Northwest side of town. (lips smacking)
And what we wanted to do is we wanted to sue for one spot,
whether it be, you know,
Northwest or Northeast,
it doesn't matter.
Well, being that the population is supposed to be equal.
Well, the black community didn't have enough
of a population to withstand a district.
(lips smacking)
And the Hispanic community was so spread out that,
you know, the Northeast didn't have enough Hispanic,
the Southeast had Hispanics,
but it was still too mixed within Hispanic and white,
and then a few to the West.
So what we ended up suing
for was (lips smacking) majority-minority district.
So we had to combine in order to sue the city
for that place.
But like I said, it didn't go through in the city.
It went through the school board.
That's how we ended up getting it,
on the school board. (lips smacking)
Joel: Thank you for the closer explanation.
-: Well, I hope I got you.
(Joel laughing)
(laughs) I got you the answers you were looking for.
Joel: You did, thank you.
Karen: Thank you.
-: All right.