Scouting, Volume 48, Number 6, August-September 1960 Page: 36
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A Of course one is subject to the ele-
ments, and part of the training of
mountaineering is to know that you
can survive under any kind of condi-
tions. But climbing without experi-
ence in unknown terrain, succumbing
to panic, or indulging in horseplay
are more dangerous than weather
conditions.
Q Did your boys ever have a bad
fall?
A No, never on a mountain, but one
boy broke his leg crossing the street.
He complained bitterly that it didn't
happen on a climb so he could have
something to talk about.
Q I understand that you start train-
ing for climbing with overnight hikes.
How can you hike in New York City?
A We plan one overnight packing
trip at least once a month. We usually
go hiking in the Bear Mountain
Harriman State Park and in the Cat-
skills. We have gone up to the Adiron-
dacks and to the White Mountains of
New Hampshire.
Q / understand the boys originally
thought they might need an alcoholic
pickup to keep the blood flowing 011
their first mountain climb. How did
you take care of that problem?
A It was quite an experience. I told
them very carefully how to pack a
pack; and when they appeared, these
packs had all kinds of funny shapes.
Right in front of the church I made
them open up the packs and you
would be amazed at the number of
fifths of whiskey that appeared. I put
them in the car since a mountaineer
does not need that kind of pickup.
There is enough of a thrill and ex-
hilaration just making the mountain-
top and seeing the sun rise.
Q I imagine the boys must have a
supply of fairly rough language ready
to use. How do you manage to keep
that under control or can't you?
A Well, the language is not that of
"little gentlemen," but since in many
ways they try to imitate me, the lan-
guage has quite improved. I think
they realize now that vulgarity is
really a crutch for a poor vocabulary.
Q Is it embarrassing to you to find
these boys trying so hard to copy
you?
A Well, I suppose it is in some ways.
I have to be careful, because when
they go home and their parents or
guardians tell them to do something,
they will say that Mr. Khan does so
and so. He wouldn't do a thing like
this. These conflicts are things that
one has to prevent.
Q How?
A I try to emphasize to these boys
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