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THE AUSTIN STATESMAN
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6, 1924
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JOINT DISCUSSION ADDS ZEST TO THE CITY MANAGER CAMPAIGN
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PEDIGO DISSECTS MANAGER
CHARTER; SEES DANGER TO
OUR POLITICAL UBERTIES
BEGINNING THURSDAY
MORNING AT 8 O’CLOCK
The values convince! The wise
clothing buyer knows there is
too much cheap merchandise
-around. That’s why we so
urgently want you to see and
consider the style, fabric and
tailoring we’re featuring in this
Big Clearance Sale.
Values to $12.50.
Now..........
ing called attention to the selection
of a mayor of Austin by the council.
form of government will
throw awvay their rights
ment in utter.
Ideals of free
BALDWIN AND TRAVIS
DEBATE CITY MANAGER
IN JOINT DISCUSSION
ac-
the
and
ferred under the formless and Indefi-'
nite provisions of the city manager
charter as proposed, they discover how-
absurdly easy it is to acquire more
authority and by steady acquisition of
autocratic control they .progressively
alienate one political privilege after
ahother from the people and eventual-
ly it transpires that the people are
ruled and governed instead oft ruling
and governing," the speaker pointed
out.
Then Mr. Pedigo took up the self-
perpetuating features that can be ex-
ercised by a council under the city
White Slippers—$5.85, $6.85, $7.85, $8.85
Values to $12.50
Hurry for the Big Sale and
Bring the Cash.
FOR SEVERAL LOTS of
Suede Strap Slippers — in
Fawn, Grey and Brown—
1-2 Price
$10.00 PATENT STRAPS
Short Vamps
You are invited to enjoy the famous
Organ Recitals daily, in the lobby,
12 Noon to 230, 6 to 8430 P. M.
Extra large sample rooms; committee rooms
with capacities of 30 to 400; large ballroom;
rooms for private dancing parties.
the propoi
justify the
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Jackson Blvd., Dearborn andQuincy Sts.
Opposite Federal Building, CHICAGO
VOU will enjoy staying at this famous
- hotel, because here combined are
unexcelled accomodations, convenient
location and moderate cost. One block
from State Street; nearby are the theatres,
office, buildings, banks and also trans-
portation facilities to all parts of the city.
One of the chief hotels of
Chicago and America
partici-
affairs
Big lot of Strap Slippers; Cuban and
Baby Louis heels; narrow toes. Black
and Browns. Some Silver Brocade.
Burt Shoe Co
606 CONGRESS AVE.
otel
(T)alter (T)ilcox
THE STOftfXAAo* Men
"The ge
protect the
or men exercising political power or
domination- as under the city manager
plan may begin the exercise of that
ic form of govern-
tradiction of the
never claimed perfection as a man or
as an official. That he had given the
best service of which he was capable
and that was all any man could do.
That while mistakes had been made
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LOTS OF GOOD SHOES AT THESE PRICES, but broken sizes
and carry overs. Hurry and bring your money.
Ina proponent of a change of govern-
ment had-not endorsed the present city
officials and urged their election as for
the best interests of Austin. The com-
plaining proponent of autocratic form
of government reluctantly admitted
that he had done so. "And now for
some reason unknown to me chis man
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taxation on the poor and take it off
the wretched rich. Yet no one line in
who formerly, strenuotsly endorsed the
present city officials has turned about
and in order to get them out of the
city hall wants to tear down the whole
structure of city government and sub-
mities.
rit is established to
pants in their governmental
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charter a member of the council, who
for any reason retires from that body,
is succeeded by someone chosen by
the remaining members of the council
without reference to the people of the
city and without regard to thie wishes
and desires that may be entertained by
the voters, taxpayers and residents of
the city.
Speaking of the autocratic power
exercised by a czar, absolute monarch
or irresponsible despot. Mr. Pedigo
declured that'only in one Instance was
absolute authority recognized under
the constitution of the United States
and that was the free and untrammeled
enjoyment of an individual in his
own possessions? "A business man
may continue his business or he may
quit and retire from business and then
later he may if he so choses again
enter into active business life and
none shall deprive him of that right."
Mr. Pedigo pointed out. As individuals
and free American citizens each man
and woman enjoys autocratic power
in these matters that pertain strictly
to each as an individual. Recognjzing
the reasonable restrictions that intel-
ligence imposes in the enjoyment of
even these personal rights and privi-
leges, the speaker stated that by Way
of illustration he referred to the only
measure of autocratic power recognized
under the constitution of the United
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S.t Arandrueatoru REFUSE
Reliable LADIES Substitutes I
and spent," Mr. Baldwin declared.
The spedker then pointed out that
the manager forces "have been
Pedigo said ho eske this gentleman
if it wasn’t a fact that during the elec-
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over his own signature this complain- hoc® other. The speaker urged the de-
WILL SAY GOOD BYE
•To a big lot of Women’s Strap Slippers and Oxfords. About
700 pairs are grouped in two lots for—
$1.00 and $2.50
feat of the city manager form of gov-
ernment regardless of individual polf-
tical fortunes" and retention In' the
the virtually unlimited power con-
manager form of government. lav-
said Mr. Pedigo;
Pointing out that under the city
manager form of government with un-
limited authority vested in the city
manager, two politicalmachines would
develop at the city hail at war with
each other, one headed by the city
manager and the other headed by the
city council. Mr. Pedigo declared that
just so sure as we live the people of
Austin in adopting the city manager
Commissioner. Avery said he had
Mr. Pedigo then pointed out
States. Other exercise of autocratic
power than that referred to by way of
illustration, the speaker declared, was
Lot of White Canvas Strap Slippers; low
and Baby Louis heels. Also big lot of
black Satin and Kid Slippers with French
heels. Former prices to $10.00. $1.00
the people," he declared, "the city
manager plan will take away these
powers itself.
“Ther can be no division of power
in ‘our city government under the
manager plan as Mr. Baldwin sug-
gests. Either the city council will or-
der the city manager or the manager
will advise the cjty council what to
do."
Commission-Manager a Misnomer.
Mr. Travis then declared the term
"commissioner-manager" employed to
designate the city manager plan by
its proponents is in reality a misnomer
and that a commission is an adminis-
trative board. The term ‘commission-
manager," he declared, is a sort of
smoke screen to hide the real term.
The speaker then referred to publi-
cation of the fact that Knoxville, a
city manager city, recently paid divi-
dends to their taxpayers and added
that it is the business of city manager
to boost their own profession.
"Who signed this report? Why the
city manager, of course. Even "Doc"
Cook used the right to declare divi-
dends and give publication to that
fact. We cannot deny anyone the
right to do that.
"The real question before the people
of Austin is simply this: Is the city
manager plan the proper one to adopt
if we are ready now to drop the com-
mission form of government? Why
decide hastily on the city manager
plan? There are other forms of gov-
ernment that we might try. Why not
investigate them?"
At this juncture Mr. Travis told his
audience that he had received a com-
munication from a newspaper eidtor
In Mot Springs, Ark., and quoted him
as saying "that we adopted the city
manager plan to get rid of some poli-
ticians and then had to repeal it to
get rid of another set of politicians.”
Mr. Travis used this to show that in
practice the city manager plan will
not eliminate politics from city gov-
ernment as proponents of the system
have stated.
Riddles "Merit” Argument.
Mr. Travis then attacked the pro-
posal of Mr. Baldwin and other man-
ager proponents to. introduce merit
into the selection of city officials. He
declared the charter does not say any-
thing about merit but merely provides
that the city council shall appoint a
city manager. The question of put-
ting city jobs on merit, he said, was
merely the hope of city manager pro-
ponents and tha the charter did not
contain any provision guaranteeing
that qualification.
Mr. Travis referrd. to the objection
of Mr. Baldwin to the fifty men of
one department working for the polit-
ical fortunes of the department head
and countered by declaring:
"They propose to remedy a situa-
tion wherein a department head em-
ploys fifty people approved by the
council by placing in power a man
employing 200 men not approved by
the council and firing them as he sees
fit without giving the employe dis-
missed-any chance for redress or ap-
peal in his grievance."
Mr. Travis then showed that city
manager cities have not yet succeeded
in curing troubles of a city govern-
ment and appealed to the voters, of
Austin not to adopt a faulty charter
regardless of who was responsible for
drafting it., *.
trol and-direction of the municipal nf-
fairs. Commissioner Avery was rc-
cardsd henrrkgpplause 8 he courhnb 1
properly must be listed, taxes collect- .
ed, streets improved and men to do ।
these things must be employed, the .
speaker asserted.
"What we propose to do is simply to ,
change the method of doing this," Mr. ,
Baldwin .emphasized. "We want to
carry out the business of the city along f
business lines by trained men."
Air. Baldwin then pointed out that
Democratic government from the be-
ginning has divorced the legislative and
administrative departments and sep- 1
arated the courts from Loth divisions.
In this connection, the speaker declared
that'the present commission form of
government is a violation of that Dem-
ocratic idea since it combines the legis-
lative and the administrative and re-
quires the legislative power to enforce
the laws that it makes.
"That is the chief objection that I
have to the commission rorm of gov-
ernment," he declared. "I do not be-
lieve that the men who make the laws
should be required to enforce them.
That does not appeal to me as being
sound Democratic government."
Harks Back to Aldermanic Days.
Mr. Baldwin then pointed out that
the aldermanic system of government
was discarded in Austin some sixteen
years ago because that form of gov-
ernment lacked unity or interest in
building for the entire city. He charged
that the commission form of govern-
ment possesses the same defect.
"Each councilman under our.present
system is required to give his entire
time to legislation and to directing the
affairs of a single department, two con-
flicting duties. The ambitious man
wants to make his department a suc-
cess—and it is only human nature for
men to be ambitious. The councilman
as head of a department becomes so
absorbed in the running of his depart-
ment that the welfare of the city is
obscured. He is so intent on th suc-
cess of his department that he can not
possibly devote his best interest to
legislation affecting the whole of the
city.” Applause greeted this observa-
tion of the speaker.
"The very virtues which make a
councilman a good executive/' Mr.
Baldwin continued, "unfit him as a
legislator. He becomes a specialist
with only one line of thought and one
line of effort. Did you ever hear of a
specialist of this type being elected
precident of the United States? or sen-
ator of the United States? No, you
never did.
Mr. Baldwin then charged that city
employe* under the present system of
government which changes administra-
tion every two years take "the anxious
seat" after about eighteen months
when their chiefs reannourre for of-
fice and that the city which is paying
for efficieht service cannot get such
service when employes are working in
the interest of their chiefs re-election.
Mr. Baldwin then asked if It was not
reasonable from a business standpoint
to suppose that the efficiency of such
employes is decreased 25 per cent?
Claims Merit System Would Rule.
"It is proposed by the manager pro-
ponents to put in these city employes
on the merit system and th Job is
theirs as long as they deliver efficient
service,” the speaker declared.- "Just
now there is not a change in adminis-
tratlon that does not result In a large
turnover of city jobs."
Mr. Baldwin used as the basis of his
discussion on this point a deportment
requiring the services of fifty employes
working under one of the department
heads.
With reference to the requirement of
city officials to give bond under the
city manager charter, Mr. Baldwin de-
clared the councilmen invested only
with powers of legislation should have
no occasion to give bond since they
under the proposed city
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cused of trying to overthrow
present system of government
rid of objectionable tenants.
"The silliness and absurdity of such
proposals is too obvious or ought to
be too obvious to require comment,"
Mr. Pedigo declared. •
The only honest way is to vote out
the objectionable officials and replace
them with mn more desirable. And
this choosing and selecting of officials
of the city government is vested in the
people of this city and not in a few
disgruntled individuals, Mr. Pedigo
asserted with emphasis.
Citing the instance of one gentleman
in Austin who remonstrated with Mr.
Pedigo for taking part' in the fight
against the city manager plan, -Mr.
Pedigo declared that when that man
was pinned down to • the truthful
reasons for his support of the plan it
developed his personal desire to "get
rid of that crowd at the city hall." Mr.
paign," Mr. Travis declared. "I had
an idea that I had some facts about
the question that you perhaps did not
know and that these misrepresenta-
tions ought to be corrected by furnish-
ing facts as they exist.”
Mr. Travis then charged the pro-
ponents of the cityemanager plan with
having started the "burgomaster bug-
aboo.” He declared that former Mayor
Wooldridge in a meeting of the Lions
Cib' once declared he favored the
responsible mayor plan over a burgo-
master system such as proposed in a
city manager plan. Later, Mr. Travis
charged, the term was used by Dr. C.
S. Potts, another advocate of the city
manager plan and that the term was
frequently used in city manager prop-
aganda.
"As it is the burgomaster has less
power even than your proposed city
manager,” Mr. Travis pointed out.
Here he compared the Beaumont char-
ter with that of the city of Berlin.
In the latter charter provision is made
for a lower and upper council, the
latter being the administrate'® body
and the burgomaster the chief ad-
ministrator. The city mahager, Mr.
Travis pointed out, is given virtually
absolute power of administration and
the council cannot interfere in his
acts.
"Prussia advertised for a burgomas-
ter; we can do tire. same but none of
us, I am certain, believe that our
executives will go to Africa and select
an infant for our city manager," the
speaker declared amid gales of laugh-
ter from his audience.
Regarding the charge of proposing
a system involving the ruination of
the city, the speaker declared:
Good Spirit But Bad Judgment.
"Under present conditions in our
city we could not ruin our city under
any form of government for a few
years. The city manager plan being
proposed at this time shows the civic
awakening of our people and I admire
their spirit but dog-gone their judg-
ment.” This sally was greeted with
a storm of laughter and applause.
It was apparent by this time that
the audience was in a responsive
mood to Mr. Travis' reply and were
either laughing or applauding his re-
marks at nearly every comment.
Replying to the contention made by
Mr. Baldwin that the proposed char-
ter will not abrogate any right now
held by the voter. Mr. Travis pointed
out that voters will lose the right to
select their mayor and also the right
to fill vacancies on. the council, two
rights now invested in the people.
He pointed out that the men run-
ning for the council under the city,
manager plan will not have any issues
to work on, cannot promise the people
better streets, better parks or other
civic needs but could only promise the
voters to select a good business man-
nger. This would cause people to lose
Interest and keep them away from the
polls, Mr. Travis declared, as he con-
tended this as one weakness of the
city manager plan of government.
What th® 'Daddy of the Plan* Said.
Here the speaker quoted Dr. Augus-
tus Horton, /‘the daddy of the city
manager plan" as saying the City
manager plan wil "get rid of the
emotional vote and let the good in-
tellectuals vote."
Answering Mr. Baldwin’s argument
that the city manager is only "the
agree with Mr. Travis in his conten-
tion that the business of a city is not
business but government and that the
purpose of government' is to protect
life and liberty of the people.” "
Mr. Baldwin then explained that in
city government there were two dis-
tinct divisions—the legislative and ad-
ministrative—and stated at the outset
that the legislative was the most Im-
portant phase of government. With-
out the legislative division, Mr. Bald-
win contended, there can be no gov-
ernment since government is builded
on laws expressive of the will of the
people.
"By legislation your taxes are levied,
four properties are listed, your taxes
are collected, your money appropriated
city’s chief hired man," Mr. Travis
contended that he is in reality the
boss invested with power.
"If the city manager is only a hired
man, then we can say that the gov-
ernor of Texas is a hired man,” Mr.
Travis asserted. "The city manager
has even a greater privilege than the
governor. He is permitted to sit with
the council and holds the right of
initiative in the actions of this body.
“I agree with proponents of the city
manager plan hat the voters will
have the same powers the day after
the amendments are adopted—assum-
ing the people will adopt them—but
you know these amendments won’t be-
come effective until next April.” This
remark was greeted with another
burst of laughter from the crowd.
"We do not accuse anybody of
scheming toetake away powers from
setting up something new in its place.
"I defy apy man who makes such
an assertion to piont to a single
syllable n the charter that affects
legislation In any. way or which abro-
gates any power possessed by the
voter. Under the proposed charter the-
voter will have the same rights, powers
and privileges that he now enjoys since
there is no change proposed in the
legislative division of our government.
Says People’s Rights Not Curtailed.
"The power of the people lies in
legislation and under the democratic
form of government are required to
have a government by representation.
In this matter no change is proposed
by the proponents of the manager plan
and you will have the same power the
day after the amendments carry as
before. You will still select your
representatives at the polls and no man
can get into the legislative depart-
ment of our city governmegt without
the approval of the voters.
"We have been charged with at-
tempting to turn the government over
to the wicked and wretched rich. You
will still select your council by popular
vote and after that body has been
selected, it will have power that is not
expressly reserved in the charter. The
council makes the laws, builds the
streets; in fact nothing can be done
without the consent or order of the
council."
Mr. Baldwin then dwelt on the ad-
ministrative end . of city government
and declared that the important change
in the proposed charter would affect
that division. He termed administra-
tion as the "handling of public busi-
ness" and declared that every type of
government is surrounded with a cer-
tain amount of business and number
of business transactions. In a city
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in direct antagonism to the ideals of
representative . government under
which we lived,
The speaker pointed out that under
the proposed city manager charter the
powers of even the council would be
curtailed insofar as the restriction of
the city manager in his administra-
tion of the affairs of the city Were
concerned and that according to the
proposed amendments the city man-
ager will be vested with such auto-
cratic authority that even the benign
city council will be unable to manage
the city manager once that individual
tastes the sweetness of power and
understands the virtually limitless
authority that is vested in him as tne
city manager under the "model char-
ter provisions proposed. The speaker
hinted at what this would mean: of
the political war that yould result at
the city hall when the city manager
council becoming alarmed at the EroW,
ing power and autocratic authority of
their political Frankenstein should at-
tempt to depose it, only to find that
they werezwithout legal authority and
were themselves powerless to exercise
the unlimited political power which
many of the city manager proponents
fondly believe will result under the
city manager charter provisions.
Mr. Pedigo said that he had been
approached by certain individual Pro,
ponents of the city manager form of
city government who, while assuring
W|W me west antenuuns ... ue him of their personal regard .an,
but, after -they have exercised friendship, announced that they M51
against him in the present fight
against the city manager form o80%t
ernment. Asked as to their respective
reasons for espousing the city manager
form of government, in each instance,
Mr. Pedigo stated, these gentlemen
stated they "wanted to get rid of that
crowd on the hill." And so the speak
er said in ordr to vent some political
or personal resentment against in-
dividuals now in the city hall these
men who claimed to be patriotic citi-
zens were ready to overturn their own
government, tear down the political
safeguards and. destroy their own poli-
tical temple of freedom in order. Pam-
son-wise to destroy their opponents
Declaring that the issues in this fight
against the city manager government
were not personal Issues but issues of
freedom and representative govern-
ment, for government for, of and by
the people as against the autocratic
rille of the people by cliques and
groups of individuals, Mr. Pedigo
asked why it should be necessary to
tear down the house in order to get
and become the politica! vassals and
political dependents of the political
gamesters who will be intrenched in
the city hall." The city manager with
his machine composed of his own ap-
pointees and the city council with its
machine cofposed of gt hose who will *
reap individual advantages at the ex- ‛
pense of the people of the city, the 3
rights of the people of the city will be
utterly ignored and the only privilege j
remaining will be that of paying the
steadily increasing taxes that will
naturally be imposed to foot all the
bills of operation of an autocratie gov- •
ernment without means of relief, short ,
of an utter overturning by the people 1
for a second time, of a form of gov- <
ernment that can, may and will be-
come, if adopted, a breeder of extrava-
gance, and inefficiency on the part of
officials and indifference on the part <
of the people. The indifference of the
people to their government under the
city manager form will be a natural '
consequence to the separation from t
direct participation in their govern- L
mental affairs. Mr. Pedigo declared 7
and he urged that the political safety, .
freedom and unhampered enjoyment
of these liberies enjoyed under a free
government were only to be guaranteed *
by the people going to the polls next
Saturday and scratching every yes on
the ballot, defeating the city manager
"monstrosity" that it rs proposed to
impose on Austin people,
Mr Pedigo was followed by C. N.
Avery, who briefly outlined the im-
provements that has been attained in
the water plant of the city and of the
improved facilities that would accrue
to the people under the expenditure of
thb peoples* money that had been
made under the commission form of
government.
Discounting thp claims of inetticlen- .
cy against the present city offiqials by
the proponents of the city manager
form of government, Mr* Avery de-
clared that it was nor a question with
him of office seeking or office hold-
ing but as an American citizen he was
against the change in our present form
of government and placing an auto-
cratic form of government in its
place. He declared that if the voters
of Austin were dissatisfied with his
services or with the services of any of- •
ficlal at the city hall, all they had to
do was to exercise the recall or sup-
port the candidac of someone else for 1--
the respective places.
do not handle any moneys. With ref-
erence to bonding the city manager.
Mr. Baldwin asserted:
"Do you good people imagine that
you would elect five men who would
not have sense enough to require the
manager who handles $1,000,000 of city
money to give bond? I give the peo-
ple of this city credit for having enough
sense not to imagine such a condition."
Mr. Baldwin then stated this could
be done by ordinance and quoted Victor
Brooks, chairman of the charter com-
mission of two years ago, with cay-
ing that he (Brooks) was against put-
ting ordinances Into the charter and
that the legislature of the city ought
to be left some work to do.
Mr. Baldwin declared that the only
power given th® city manager is the
right to name the people who will do
the city's work. He termed the city
manager as the "city's. chief hired
man who will see-hat the city gets
service In return for the money spent.
"It's all hullabaloo when they talk
about a kaiser being brought here to
rule you," he continued. "It's all
bunk! Where do they get that idea.
The legislators will have the same
powers as now but we do propose to
estop them from taking the city's
money to form a political machine to
perpetuate their term in office.” At
this comment the speaker got the
most liberal applause given him dur-
ing his address indicating that the
audience agreed with him on this
point.
Mr. Baldwin declared the council-
men were still citizens and should not
be deprived of the right to speak in
the interest of their city’s welfare but
challenged the right of council mem-
bers to use their office to influence
people to vote as the city office holders
themselves desire them to do.
Touching on alleged imperfections
and weaknesses in the proposed char-
ter, Mr. Baldwin pointed out that it
was drafted’by City Attorney Rector
at the instance, of the council and
submitted by that body to the people;
that if anyone was "fostering a joker
on the people" the council was doing it.
At this juncture J. L. Taff rose in
the audience and asked:
"Mr. Baldwin, will you please tell
us what will be the duties of the
mayor under the city manager plan?
"He will preside over the council as
he now does, will certify the actions
of that body as he now does and will
be the ceremonial of the city as he
now is," replied Mr. Baldwin.
"Will he not have to sign papers?"
came back from Taff.
"Sure,” Mr. Baldwin replied.
Then as Mr. Baldwin left the plat-
form and yielded the floor to Edmunds
Travis. Mr. Taff demanded to know
"how many hours the mayor would
have to spend in signing papers." That
question was left unanswered as Mr.
Travis started replying to Mr. Bald-
win.
Travis Replies to Baldwin.
Mr. Travis opened his reply with
the statement that both 'sides are
agreed on the fact that miserpresenta-
tions had been made in the city man-
ager campaign and attributed them
to a lack of knowledge of the facts,
'That is why I entered this cam-
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The Austin Statesman (Austin, Tex.), Vol. 53, No. 51, Ed. 1 Wednesday, August 6, 1924, newspaper, August 6, 1924; Austin, Texas. (https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1444996/m1/3/: accessed July 17, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, https://texashistory.unt.edu; .